
Kim Kardashian has opened up about what she says are the difficulties of co-parenting four children alongside rapper Kanye West.
In a new interview with the Call Her Daddy podcast, the 44-year-old reflected on raising four children with her ex-husband, whom she divorced in 2021.
“What do you think co-parenting with Kanye West is like?” Kardashian replied after host Alex Cooper inquired about their family dynamic, which includes herself, Ye, and children North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm.
“It’s not easy. But, I mean, I raise the kids, you know, full-time. They live with me. I welcome a great, healthy relationship with my kids and their dad, and I think he knows that,” Kardashian continued, after having previously been in a relationship with Ye that began in 2011.
“I push for it all the time, but I also protect them when, you know, it’s time for that. And it goes in waves and phases and it’s a lot of work.”
Cooper then asked about the last time Ye saw his children, and Kardashian said: “Whenever he’ll call for them and ask.
“It’s probably been a couple months since we’ve heard from him.”
The host then questioned whether or not the children feel disappointment over that, and inquired about how Kardashian might handle their resulting feelings.
Kardashian maintained that the kids “always knew that he had a big life” that involved traveling around the world and living in different countries due to the nature of his demanding profession, and that “we manage it really well” on that front.
“They love their life and their routine and their schedule,” Kardashian said.
“And I think just their job as their mom is just to make sure that they stick to their routine and they’re healthy and happy. Look, it’s not easy no matter what, co-parenting with anyone.”
The Keeping Up with the Kardashians star maintained, however, “the one thing that just gets me is that there’s this narrative that like, I keep the kids” away from Ye, she said.
“I’ve never once done that. There’s been so many times where I’ve been like, ‘Oh, I just wanna show all of these texts. What are you talking about?’ We just haven’t heard. I begged them, you know, to go hang out or things like that,” she said. “But, it’s more of just the narrative that like, I think it’s all good and we’re living our life and then I just wake up and there’s all these tweets about how I’ve kidnapped the kids and I’m like, it’s not a kidnapping, it’s a divorce. We can still all be in each other’s lives and have group dinners.”
She stressed that “every time” Ye has asked, she will “always let [the kids] see their father,” but she’s conscious of drawing a line when she’s felt that the situation might be “really super unhealthy” in the moment, given Ye’s recently publicized controversies.
“I will, you know, say, ‘Hey, let’s do it here at my house,’ or, ‘Let’s figure out a different time,'” recalled Kardashian. “But actually, when he is like that, he doesn’t really want to see the kids a lot, so if he’s having a hard time, he doesn’t. So, it’s always worked out.”
She again doubled down on letting the children visit him in countries around the world “every time he asks,” from Saudi Arabia to Japan.
“I’ve never once denied it. No, I don’t keep the kids and I think that all,” Kardashian said.
“That narrative really sucks for me and if I spoke out about it and rebutted it, I’m just not that girl online that’s going to fight back and be like wait a minute, your assistant and you said you wanted a whole different birthday party and you said your party’s at four, so we did ours at noon, now you’re going online? It’s just a totally different narrative than what the reality is, and that just really sucks.”
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Kim Kardashian says co-parenting with Kanye has been tough, claiming she hasn’t heard from him in months and she’s the only one present for their kids 😳👀
“The one thing that gets me is the narrative that I keep the kids… I beg them to go hang out.”
pic.twitter.com/fKKin4Gf14— Killa 🌺 (@KillaKreww) October 15, 2025